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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 6, 2014 7:45:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 13:19:52 GMT -5
So you think they metal detected prior to digging?
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Post by uregold on Feb 6, 2014 16:34:14 GMT -5
i love it
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Post by Gold Seeker on Feb 6, 2014 20:41:53 GMT -5
So you think they metal detected prior to digging? Unless there's some of the vein closer to the surface I don't think it would be detectable, they were digging down a good bit before hitting the vein. |
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Post by goldrunner on Feb 6, 2014 20:45:11 GMT -5
That is pretty awesome
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 7, 2014 6:40:06 GMT -5
So you think they metal detected prior to digging? Don't know about MD. I think they went after an exposed vein. Where they dug was probably up from the outcrop same vein for some reason. Outcrop could have been on the creek which digging would have flooded the work. The vein they exposed shows pinching. That is why you see the small area in vid. Veins pinch and then grow again from my understanding. I'm just starting to research this area of prospecting for my understanding. Interesting. |
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 7, 2014 8:04:38 GMT -5
Here's one from the Liberty Gold Mine in Washington State. A different approach in mining. Notice the rock formation. No cribbing and no veins other than bedrock. I am assuming they are digging an old river channel.
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Post by samburgin on Feb 7, 2014 8:05:20 GMT -5
The Confederate Mine has an interesting history. It has since lost its mining permit, but the guys who ran it were unable to find the trends in the gold because they were only looking for pockets. Subsequently, little testing was done, but lots of digging.
There is gold in every tailings pile we tested, and random holes dug all over the 1100 acres of the claim.
Regardless of the amount of gold therein, it is too diluted because of the random digging to make it pay.
The gold is carried in pegmatite, sericite, and manganese encrusted quartz. The quartz is completely weathered out. Most of the gold is -320 mesh, except for the nugget pockets, which are spectacular.
I’ve tested the in-situ sides of the trenches where they dug-out the pockets, and they are absolutely full of very fine gold. Thousands of colors per pan, all tiny.
Sam
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 7, 2014 8:07:53 GMT -5
Outstanding Sam! Did you know the miners?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 8:41:46 GMT -5
I definitely need to take a class in geology..
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 7, 2014 9:21:11 GMT -5
I definitely need to take a class in geology.. OK... here ya go... This will hurt your brain but very informative. 11 series. |
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Post by uregold on Feb 7, 2014 16:21:27 GMT -5
this is some good stuff man..
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Post by samburgin on Feb 8, 2014 10:39:40 GMT -5
Indyme2 knows the guy who discovered the lode and put me in touch with him, who put me in touch with the miners. We had a second opportunity to review the site when the Forest Service offered us the lease when the permit was pulled. We have a prospecting permit on 120 acres at the top of the mountain overlooking the Confederate, and on the exact same trend.
Sam
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 8, 2014 11:31:59 GMT -5
Nice, Sam!
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 8, 2014 11:33:25 GMT -5
Just curious... why was the permit pulled?
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Post by victory on Feb 8, 2014 19:09:11 GMT -5
x2
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Post by samburgin on Feb 8, 2014 21:53:01 GMT -5
We were not told why the permit was pulled, but when working the Forest Service, the BLM allows them to enforce only the Plan of Operation, which they do. You are cited one time to correct a deficiency, then they start fining. Eventually they will threaten your permit if you don't comply, and pull your ticket if you fail to follow their demands.
So whatever it was they did, they did it several times and refused to correct it. Their mining permit was for placer recovery, not hardrock. Anyone who entered the mine could see there was no placer operation in place, so that was likely the issue. But I'm, not sure.
On our claim, we were cited for driving on a road that went through the middle of the claim. We did not specifically say we would use the road, therefore it wasn't on the POO, so we could not use it. We had to file an update to the POO, then we could legitimately use the road. The Forest Service also cut out 26 acres from the middle of the claim for "historical significance". There was absolutely nothing within the boundary of the 26 acres, except trees.
Also, we had to pay a bounty on every tree we cut down.
Tough way to make a living.
Sam
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Post by mark on Feb 8, 2014 23:25:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Sam. Everyone wonders why there is not more gold mining in the carolinas, now you know.
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Post by indyme2 on Feb 10, 2014 7:31:52 GMT -5
just curious... why was the permit pulled?
I am good friends with 4 of the 6 involved in this cluster..... I have only heard 4 sides of the story so it is not complete but the 4 sides are the same story and documents seem to support what they say. My take is this: It is easy to screw up a good thing if you don't follow the rules and never trust anyone when it comes to gold, even if you have it in writing.
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Post by indyme2 on Feb 10, 2014 7:34:07 GMT -5
So you think they metal detected prior to digging?
Nope. Terry found it tracking with a saruca.
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Post by cabarrusgold on Feb 10, 2014 8:22:11 GMT -5
So you think they metal detected prior to digging? Nope. Terry found it tracking with a saruca. Wow, so he just screened dry dirt? I have seen a few vids on those things, You made one of the vids, Indy. Terry? Is he the other guy in a vid about Sarucas? Very cool and interesting to here different ways to prospect. Was watching Gold Rush show and bam... there was a saruca being used to find diamonds. |
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Post by indyme2 on Feb 10, 2014 8:31:11 GMT -5
It works wet or dry. The guys in the video are all "Candy Branch" and Terry is the guy who found it.
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Post by samburgin on Feb 10, 2014 8:57:00 GMT -5
Hey Indy, isn't there a youtube video starring Terry Lee and his saruca? I know of one starring you!
You have those links?
Sam
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Post by samburgin on Feb 10, 2014 8:58:28 GMT -5
Oops, should have read all the posts.
Sam
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Post by indyme2 on Feb 10, 2014 9:26:38 GMT -5
I guess we need to shoot a video featuring you, Sam! You are about the only one I don't have on camera. Lol! Sam, a Super Star. Who would have ever figured? Ha!
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Post by indyme2 on Feb 10, 2014 9:31:06 GMT -5
It ain't pretty!
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Post by Pickerking on Feb 13, 2014 21:26:31 GMT -5
I've learned lodes of stuff in the last year on hard Rock mining. Very interesting, 4x the work and 4x the price than placer but its good to know..its funny how we all concentrate on placer but walk right over rich rich veins and high grade ore..I know I have in the past lol. Yup good stuff.
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